Factory Five Cobra: Update #4

"ModerateSloth" (moderatesloth) 07/11/2014 at 21:52 • Filed to: None

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The moment that I have been waiting for finally arrived just a few hours ago. If you read my last post, we finally ordered the Coyote 5.0L engine that will be going in our Cobra and tonight, it finally showed up in all of its 412 hp glory. This thing is truly massive and takes up a ton of my valuable garage real estate, but I guess I'll suffer through :).

Here are some pictures, I think they speak for themselves.

Since my last update we also installed the steering rack and threw on the steering wheel and a seat just to see roughly how everything was going to line up. As always, more to come.

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > ModerateSloth 07/11/2014 at 21:54

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Hell yeah that is badass!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That sits on a stang chassis correct?

JGrabowMSt > Vince-The Roadside Mechanic 07/11/2014 at 21:57

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No, FFR cars are tube frame done by FFR. It's Mustang running gear, but no frame or structural bits from a mustang.

ModerateSloth > Vince-The Roadside Mechanic 07/11/2014 at 21:57

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More or less…the Factory Five chassis is setup to accept parts from a Mustang donor car, we aren't going that route though

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > ModerateSloth 07/11/2014 at 21:58

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Ok is it harder to title then?

ModerateSloth > Vince-The Roadside Mechanic 07/11/2014 at 22:04

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Not that I know of. I have spoken to people who have titled these cars in my area and apparently it's a huge pain in the ass. I believe that the process in many states is that you title it as a replicar and the car only has to meet the standards of the year it emulates. I'm still looking into this, got a long way to go before I'll be at that point

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > ModerateSloth 07/11/2014 at 22:06

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That and cash are what is stopping me from doing a F5 kit.

Frank Grimes > ModerateSloth 07/11/2014 at 22:11

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holy farts thats awesome!

Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull > ModerateSloth 07/11/2014 at 22:39

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You people who buy engines fully assembled to put in your projects instead of cobbling them together out of junk and motorcycle induction parts are crazy, man.

*goes back to eating paste*

04sneaky - Boxers. Blowers. Bikes. And bitches. > Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull 07/11/2014 at 22:55

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I'm a pretty well off individual, but I absolutely agree. Building the motor is where all if the real fun is at. Plus it doesn't make sense to me to build the entire car, and then let someone else build the motor. Which is arguably the most important part.

This is just my opinion, so its worth nil, but I can't look at something saying I "built" it without doing everything that I reasonably could to it with my own hands. Having someone build a frame, or even a roll cage is somewhat acceptable, but I enjoy the building of the car more than the car itself. So being able to learn how to build it, in order to actually build it in the first place, is what gets me giddy at night. I think Jack Olsen's take in his Petrolicious video hits it square on the head for me.

But again, this is just my $0.02. Sloth, you're still doing something I definitely have at the top of my bucketlist. And, doing a damn good job at it. ;)

Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull > 04sneaky - Boxers. Blowers. Bikes. And bitches. 07/11/2014 at 23:09

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I built a Land Rover "from the ground up", which involved everything down to and including doing frame repair and a transmission rebuild - other than rebuilding the engine, because it just happened not to need it. Now, I'm taking an existing car ('63 Ford) and going more bonzo on the custom side of things - including custom rear suspension and a custom engine build. Hence the "motorcycle induction parts" - not a joke as the induction system I'm building is with two sets ( x4ea) of motorcycle throttle bodies, thus 10% larger inlets with no common plenum to slow things down. Stacks, bro.

It's going to be a mite sillier than an F5 build, but I'm predicting a lot more rust-gouged fingers.

vdub_nut: scooter snob > ModerateSloth 07/11/2014 at 23:28

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ModerateSloth > 04sneaky - Boxers. Blowers. Bikes. And bitches. 07/11/2014 at 23:41

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I definitely understand where you're coming from here, there is certainly an appeal to building everything from the ground up. For my first time doing something like this though I thought it might be safer to have someone who knows what they are doing assemble the engine, especially since I'll be trusting my life with it. In the future I'd really like to do a ground-up build, it seems like a lot of fun and extremely rewarding to step back and say "I built that".

04sneaky - Boxers. Blowers. Bikes. And bitches. > Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull 07/12/2014 at 01:22

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Rust-gouged fingers are the best kind. I had a '65 that we completely rebuilt from the ground up as well. Was the best experience, car-related at least, of my lifetime. I learned so many things just to finish that car, and enjoyed every minute I sunk into it. Now I'm looking for something to fill that gap, and I think either a kit car or a complete pro-touring build is going to be my route of choice.

I'll be sure to keep an eye out for some updates from you. I love old Ford builds, especially when they are as far from factory-restoration as they can get.

04sneaky - Boxers. Blowers. Bikes. And bitches. > ModerateSloth 07/12/2014 at 01:25

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I completely understand that. Not to mention, the stock 5.0 has proven to be wayyyyy over-engineered for what it already does, so it is an obvious great choice. I'll be stoked to see some more progress on this bad boy.

Were you guys able to use the crate PCM or are you going a different route for engine management?

conrader > ModerateSloth 07/12/2014 at 13:28

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If its not TOO personal, I'd love to hear total budget and whatnot by the time you are done with the whole thing. Just seeing these pics gets me all hot and bothered.

ModerateSloth > conrader 07/12/2014 at 15:34

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I'd be glad to give you that info when it's all said and done. Are you considering doing a build?

conrader > ModerateSloth 07/12/2014 at 16:24

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I have 0 experience with mechanics and building, but I would love to learn and I do have a mechanic friend that I could probably bribe into helping me. My wife loves the FF Cobra, so it might not take too much to get her on board. It's just a somewhat 'scary' prospect to consider actually doing; it'd be a pretty big step for me to actually decide to build something no matter how much I want to. But your photos and write-ups make it seem somewhat possible at least.

ModerateSloth > conrader 07/12/2014 at 18:08

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It sounds like I was very much in the same boat you are in before we started this. I have always been a huge gear head but I was never all up on the "technical/mechanics" side of things. I signed up for the FF build school before starting this and if you are considering doing a build, I would highly recommend you invest in the school. They show you tips and tricks that are not in the instruction manual (which is quite detailed if you were wondering) and has saved me quite a few hours of work and potentially costly mistakes. These cars really do want to be built, they go together great. If you can torque bolts, pop rivets, and read directions you will be just fine. The cars are quite simple at their core and the technical knowledge that you will need you will learn along the way or at the school. DO IT!!!

Stephen the Canuck > ModerateSloth 07/13/2014 at 21:24

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Factory Five Cobra inspiration?